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Is Bill Clinton partially responsible for the economic meltdown in the US?

Former President Clinton is on the campaign trail claiming he has nothing to do with the current economic crisis. However, the facts are these:

When President Clinton was president his terms was characterized by economic prosperity and financial deregulation, which in many ways set the stage for the excesses of recent years. Among his biggest strokes of free-wheeling capitalism was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. The repeal enabled commercial lenders such as Citigroup, which was in 1999 then the largest U.S. bank by assets, to underwrite and trade instruments such as mortgage-backed securities and collateralized debt obligations and establish so-called structured investment vehicles, or SIVs, that bought those securities. It is therefore seen that the repeal of this act is directly responsible for the Global financial crisis.

That was not enough for former President Cliinton. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 has received criticism for the so-called “Enron loophole,” which exempts most over-the-counter energy trades and trading on electronic energy commodity markets. This was one of the big reasons for the collapse of Enron.

Not convinnced yet? In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods. All these rules changes played a role in creating a permissive lending environment. This in turn led to more loans being given to people who really could not afford them, leading to defaults today.

After all of this, do you believe our former president when he says to the media, “I am not a fault for any of this financial mess? Do you believe if my economic team was in place that any of this would have happened?”

My answer is yes I do – after reading about all the things he did in great detail, I put part of the blame squarely on his broad shoulders. To deny he had nothing to do with it seems like he is trying to rewrite history. What do you think?
Hmm. The surplus has nothing to do with the current situation. How does that figure into this quesstion?

True, anything can be overridden – but how does that absolve Clinton for pushing these ideas in the first place?

Although Clinton is not formerly campaigning, he is making repeated statements (three in the last two days) stating he has NOTHING to do with the economic downturn. If this is not campaigning for his reputation history, what is it then? Just random statements?

Isn’t Each Step that we Take To Energy Independence a Way of Fighting Al Qaida, The Taliban, and Muslim Power?

If we did not need any oil from the Middle East would we need such a big presence there?

If we spent our next $Trillion on domestic oil production, including ANWR, and domestic Gas production, including hydrogen and hythane, and Solar and Wind and Geothermal, wouldn’t that be more efficient than spending it on DOD so we can have a huge footprint in the Middle East, and in Afghan/Pakis?

Money spent of high quality research and production is a true investment. Money pumped into DOD for big gunboats and big boots on the ground, never comes back, never pays off any didvidends for the American people.

Energy Independence is a worthy national objective like the National Parks System of the 1920′s, the National Highway System of the 1950′s, and the Space Program of the 1960′s and 1970′s.

It is a Megaproject, but one that would pay off — bigtime.

It’s not money down a rathole.

Our goal with Islamist Extremists is to make them irrelevant. We are never going to win their hearts and minds. They will never be enlightened — by us. They may reach Enlightenment, in the next 1000 years or so because information wants to be free and because reason is a force unto itself, but we can’t build any nations, or save any, and we sure can’t build any cultures or reform any.

So they are going to hate us and want to kill us, at least for the next few centuries.

What we need to do is make them irrelevant.

That means we are not there, and they are not here.

If we insist on making a huge globalist cocktail of the entire world because we are addicted to oil that is under their lands, then our lives and treasure just go into our gas tanks and get burned up to cause more global warming.

If we live independently and within our own resources, then generations of young men and women can produce goods and services in America, and DOD can be right sized down to about 35% of its present size. This does not include a needed build up of NSA and NRO and our military satellites program. If all that is lumped in with DOD, then the net right sizing would be down to about 50% of its present size, which means we only save about $500 Billion per year — but that would be $5 Trillion over 10 years — starts to sound like real money — your money by the way, and that of your kids and grandkids.

Better to invest it and pull in our horns overseas than to squander it and be a global paper tiger that brings democracy nowhere, that builds nations nowhere, that gets eaten by everyone. that eats no one, that creates more foes than it kills every day, week, month, and year, and that is tipping on the brink of national insolvency and economic collapse. You may have noticed a Recession. Get used to it. What we have now is the new normal.

You think that need fixing?

You think you want to be truly open minded to lots of new ideas, so you don’t just do the same failed policies over and over?

OK — this is your teachable moment — how about my idea of a National Megaproject for Energy Independence before this decade is out?
To Trevor M:

A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing Trevor. The oil market is global. All purchases outside of USA ANYWHERE affect the price everywhere. When we buy oil from Venezuela, Canada, Mexico, etc it raises the price at which Middle Eastern oil can be sold in the Balkans and in Europe and to China. All extra-territorial purchases affect the global price (and our balance of payments). My point is a tanker from Venezuela to USA puts cash in the pockets of Arabs in Arabia. Drop that purchase out of the system, and that tanker could go anywhere, maybe France or England or China. The more tankers that compete with Middle East oil for customers, the lower the price paid to Moslems in Arabia, and Iran, and Iraq.

The less money they have the less Semtex they can buy. The less of us they see, the less they want to use their Semtex on us, and create children-murder-bombers to do it.

If they never get to come here — it’s hard for them to hate what they don’t see.
To Groucho M

Pat Buchanan says it just like you do. You might enjoy reading him.

Leaving people alone is not our best thing. We seem to be really into globalism.

One part of that is universal Free Trade.
(That way the Iron Law of Wages and the Theory of Comparative Advantage can break the backs of working people worldwide).

One part seems to be Projection of Cultural Ideology worldwide — why can’t everybody be a Post-Enlightenment Majoritarian Democratic Republic just like we are. They were all there on the Mayflower with us, right? And in Constitution Hall, right, you remember all the Iraqis and Taliban and Pashtuns hanging around in the back, they are in the painting, right?

No, not right!

So we have no reason to think that the world wants or will ever be amenable to our Projection of Cultural Ideology Overseas.

We are never going to bring Democracy to anybody. The French, English, and Scottish Enlightenments brought it to us only in the sense of information!

30 days Plan to resemble a command economy in 30 days: free market and progress for all?

Rockwell’s Thirty-Day Plan

By Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.

When Eastern Europe broke free in 1989, we all realized just how little thought had been given to the transition from socialism to capitalism. Mises had told us the collapse was coming, and we should have been prepared.
As America comes to resemble a command economy, we need a transition plan here too. Yuri Maltsev proposed a “One-Day Plan” for the U. S. S. R. We’re not in that bad a shape (yet), so we could do it in 30 days.
DAY ONE: The federal income tax is abolished and April 15th is declared a national holiday. The 40% reduction in federal revenues is matched by a 40% cut in spending. The budget is still almost twice as big as Jimmy Carter’s.
DAY TWO: All other federal taxes are abolished, including the corporate income tax, the capital gains tax, the gasoline tax, “sin” taxes, excise taxes, etc. Businesses boom, and the few legitimate federal functions are funded with an inexpensive head tax. People who choose not to vote need not pay it. (Note: this was a mainstream view in the 19th century.)
DAY THREE: The federal government sells all its land, freeing up tens of millions of acres for development, mining, farming, forestry, oil drilling, private parks, etc. The government uses the revenue to pay off the national debt and other liabilities.
DAY FOUR: The minimum wage is reduced to zero, creating jobs for ex-federal bureaucrats at their market wage. All pro-union laws and regulations are scrapped. The jobless rate falls dramatically.
DAY FIVE: The Bureau of Labor Statistics, like the rest of the Labor Department, is sent to that big hiring hall in the sky. Without detailed economic statistics, future economic planners will be blind and deaf.
DAY SIX: The Department of Commerce is abolished. Big business has to make its own way in the world, without subsidies and privileges at the expense of its competitors and customers.
DAY SEVEN: The plug is pulled on the Department of Energy. Oil and gas prices plummet.
DAY EIGHT: All regulatory agencies, from the Interstate Commerce Commission to the Federal Trade Commission, are deep-sixed. Competition is legalized.
DAY NINE: HUD is squashed like a bug. There’s a buiding boom in cheap, private, apartments.
DAY TEN: The interstate highways reopen as private businesses. Road entrepreneurs price travel according to consumer demand. Using modern technology, drivers get bills once a month. Credit risks-and drunks and dangerous drivers- aren’t allowed on the road. Non-drivers no longer subsidize car owners.
DAY ELEVEN: Government welfare is wiped out. Bums work or starve. The deserving poor find a cornucopia of private services designed to make them independent. Private charity explodes, as the American people, already the most generous in the world, find their incomes almost doubled, thanks to the tax cuts.
DAY TWELVE: The Federal Reserve closes its open-market operations and stops protecting the banking industry from competition. But banks can now engage in all the non-bank financial activities previously forbidden to them. The business cycle, which is caused by monetary expansion through the credit markets, is liquidated.
DAY THIRTEEN: Federal deposit insurance is scrapped. All insured deposits are redeemed from federal assets, which include the personal assets of high-level government employees. The threat of bank runs forces banks to keep 100% reserves for their demand deposits, and prudent reserves on all other accounts. There are no more inherently bankrupt banks propped up by the government, at taxpayer expense, and no more bail outs.
DAY FOURTEEN: The shaky fiat dollar is defined in terms of gold, with the ratio determined by dividing the government’s gold stock by all existing dollars on that day.
DAY FIFTEEN: The federal government sells National and Dulles airports to the highest bidder, and stops all subsidies to other socialist airports around the country. All constraints on airline prices and service cease. It costs more to fly during peak hours than off-peak, but overall, air travel drops in price.
DAY SIXTEEN: All government regulations that create and sustain cartels are abolished, including those for the post office, telephones, television, radio, and cable TV Prices plummet, and a host of new and unforeseen services becomes available.
DAY SEVENTEEN: Centrally planned agriculture, as imposed by Hoover and Roosevelt, is repealed: there are no more subsidies, payments-in-kind, marketing orders, low-interest loans, etc. Farm prices drop. Entrepreneurial farmers get rich. Welfare farmers go into another line of work. The poor eat like kings.
DAY EIGHTEEN: The Justice Department shutters its anti-trust division. Companies, big and small, are free to merge – up, down, or sideways. Stockholders can buy any other company, or sell their stock to anyone else. Marginal producers can no longer battle their competitors with bureaucratic weapons.
DAY NINETEEN: The Department of Education flunks the constitutionality test, and is kicked out. Private charities set up remedial reading and writing programs for the former bureaucrats. Federally subsidized sex education and other anti-family programs go out of business. Local school districts become responsive to parents or close, pressured by a fast-growing private school sector (which many more parents can now afford).
DAY TWENTY: All federal monuments are sold, in some cases to non-profit groups based on the Mt. Vernon Ladies Association, which owns and runs George Washington’s home. The VFW buys the Vietnam memorial. There is much bidding for the Jefferson and Washington monuments. Nobody wants FDR’s, so it’s torn down and the land sold to a farmer. (With the federal government cut back to its constitutional size, much of Washington reverts to productive uses like agriculture, as in late 18th century.)
DAY TWENTY-ONE: The computerized financial and political dossier maintained by the government on every American is erased. The public wanders through the federal offices to make sure, in a reprise of the East Berliners’ visits to Stasi headquarters.
DAY TWENTY-TWO: Equal rights are granted to all Americans, even members of non-victim groups. There is no affirmative action, no quotas, no set-asides, no public accommodations laws. Private property and freedom of association are fully restored.
DAY TWENTY-THREE: The EPA is cleaned out, with all “clean air” and similar big-government laws repealed. Ten thousand lawyers leap from their balconies. Private property is established in air and water. Americans harmed by pollution are free to sue the polluters, who are no longer protected by the federal government.
DAY TWENTY-FOUR: Americans are given complete freedom of contract, restoring rationality to malpractice and product liability law.
DAY TWENTY-FIVE: Government scrambles for more assets to sell (i.e., the National Zoo, also known as Washington, D.C.) to pay off the liabilities of the privatized Social Security system.
DAY TWENTY-SIX: Porno artists have to earn their own livings, as the National Endowment for the Arts tries to raise its budget through sidewalk painting sales.
DAY TWENTY-SEVEN: Foreign aid is outlawed as unconstitutional, unjust, and un-economic. Foreign politicians have to steal their own money. The World Bank, IMF, and United Nations close their super- luxurious doors.
DAY TWENTY-EIGHT: The American people are given the unrestricted right to keep and bear arms.
DAY TWENTY-NINE: The Defense Department is reoriented towards defense. American troops come home from all around the world. We adopt a policy of armed neutrality, remembering the Founding Fathers’ teaching that we could not have an empire abroad and a constitutional republic at home.
DAY THIRTY: All tariffs, quotas, and trade agreements are put through the shredder. Americans can trade with anyone in the world, without barriers or subsidies. Japanese car prices drop an immediate 25%.
In just 30 exhilarating days, we have established the outlines of free market. Radical? Maybe so. Me, I can’t wait until Month Two.
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Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr., is president of the Mises Institute and editor of LewRockwell.com. [email protected] This article appeared in The Free Market, March 1991.
Please Read This :

http://www.mises.org/story/2685

Former Mexico official believes immigration overhaul is crucial without it America will collapse you want that?

Immigration reform is either right around the corner or may be postponed once again to next year by Congress and the White House, depending on whom you ask.

But one thing is clear for former Mexican Foreign Minister Jorge G. Castañeda: It could prove to be a key factor in helping the U.S. move out of the current financial crisis.

“The U.S. is seeking a reorientation of its manufacturing base, and it’s not easy to do without cheaper labor and the Mexican industrial base,” he said Wednesday.

Castañeda will head to North Texas next week to talk at the University of Texas at Arlington about his latest book, Ex Mex: From Migrants to Immigrants, and about the mutual need in the U.S. and Mexico for immigration reform. He will deliver this year’s Center for Mexican American Studies Distinguished Lecture at 7:30 p.m. Wednesday in the UTA library.

Castañeda remains bullish about the prospects of enacting immigration reform sometime during President Barack Obama’s administration, despite all the heated and polarizing rhetoric surrounding the issue.

“I don’t put much stock in those [anti-immigration] voices,” he said. “Obama wouldn’t have been elected and health care reform wouldn’t have passed if they were the majority.”

He believes immigration reform is a crucial component not only in reviving our economy, but also in creating a North American community, similar to the European Union.

It’s not a new idea – former Mexican President Vicente Fox mentioned the idea of a free flow of labor and trade on a visit to Dallas in 2000. And the U.S. Council on Foreign Relations issued a trinational report in 2005 in which it proposed the creation of a North American community involving the U.S., Mexico and Canada for enhanced security and prosperity.

Castañeda’s vision for this broader relationship goes beyond the North American Free Trade Agreement and involves a free flow of labor and energy, security provisions, integration of currencies, and greater social cohesion.

“NAFTA has run out of steam, and it is not generating jobs in Mexico,” he said. “The U.S. and Mexico are further apart in economic development today, and the gap is getting bigger. We cannot leave it to the market alone to solve our issues.”

The relationship with Mexico is a lot deeper already than many realize. Castañeda has noted that one in nine Mexicans lives in the U.S. today, and therefore suggests that Mexico can no longer be viewed solely as a Latin American country.

Roger Meiners, an economics and law professor at UTA, said the U.S. and Mexico have been actively talking about a follow-up to NAFTA for years. Former President George W. Bush and Fox were in talks shortly before 9/11, when everything was derailed.

But “opening up the borders for more trade makes sense,” Castañeda said. “Increased economic activity would benefit the U.S., and all levels of income would rise, on both sides of the border.”

It would be to our advantage to expand NAFTA, he said.

“You don’t want an unstable country on your border.”

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/localnews/columnists/molivera/stories/DN-olivera_10met.ART.State.Edition1.4cd41a6.html

Question for liberals about stimulus?

What will become of the millions and millions of people thrown out of work when the stimulus jobs run dry ?

What happens to the millions of energy produces laid off when the automated wind mills and solar goes on line ?

Aren’t we setting our self up for a perfect economic storm of collapse?

As the rest of the economy free falls, who exactly will be left to pay the stimulus tab anyway?

Isn’t this like refinancing your house to buy groceries ?
Bush started it – Whaaa ! (Jesus is this kindergarten?)

Who cares WHO started it, if its a fricking STUPID idea, why is OBAMA continuing it then ?

Why is OBAMA acting like BUSH then?

Can pet food storage containers be used for human food storage?

I am seeking large bulk, airtight food containers for humans… about 25 lbs up. Do you know where I can buy these food containers for humans. The only airtight food containers I have found are for pet food. Can these containers be used for human food also?

Do plastics in food storage containers absorb dish detergent?

Anytime I microwave food in a plastic container or glass container with a plastic lid…there is this hint of chemical flavor?
My theory is the detegent used for dish washing is absorbed into these plastics and when heated, are discipated into the food. Maybe I over think these things.

What type of food can I cook to store in food storage containers?

I need some ideas on what to cook. i want to get home and just reheat it in the microwave. please, help me.

Looking for BPA free dog food storage containers and water bottles?

I’m using an Iris storage container currently and it’s the perfect size. 12 QT I think. I’m not convinced it’s BPA free. I haven’t seen anything on ‘net confirming they have BPA, but nothing disproving it either. Suggestions?

Do they make food storage containers in the shape of tv dinners?

Something I could put one meal in then keep it in the fridge then heat it up in the microwave when I want to eat it.

Suspicious Plastic Coffins – Government contingency plan, Company stock, or sinister plan?

I stumbled on a video of all these stock piled plastic coffins or ‘vaults’ in rural GA. And I have heard other people say they have seen them in other places too.
First, I am by no means a conspiracy theorist, nor do I have any plans to be. However, I do try to be a logical thinker. There are some conspiracy theories that I find to be downright silly, and others that I find to be very, very plausible.
As far as these ‘plastic coffins’ or ‘vaults’ (which ever is the correct term) is concerned, some say that they are going to be used as quick and cheap disposal devices after a disease/biological weapon/nuke etc, is unleashed and wrecks havok on ‘us’. Supposedly they are a better option than mass graves since biological agents and/or radio active materials can still pollute the surronding areas, so these ‘vaults’ or ‘coffins’ will be used..again in theory. Interestingly enough, there are FEMA/goverment documents that reccomend this instead of mass graves. As a side note – FEMA is NOT just an emergency disaster relief agency, under certain emergency situations or Martial Law, FEMA has the power to do just about anything include suspend constitutional rights. Who knew?

Then others say, they are simply the property of a company that makes them like the ‘vantage plastic corp.’ (if I remember correctly). And these are required in some states to prevent damage to the actual coffins and to help keep them in place in flood conditions. Hence they have been mass produced and kept in stock on ‘pre-sale’ status. Which does also make sense to a certain degree since the same thing basically happens in the automobile industry (car dealership for example). Others say that they are infact to be used by the government, but only as preparation for any possible future events that would produce large amounts of victims, who would thereby be buried and/or cremated to protect further advancement of a biological agent.

Here’s what I think: On one hand, I think it is more logical to conclude that these are simply the products of the company that makes them, since they are on its property….or atleast near the company (Covington, GA). Also I see no direct connection linking this company to FEMA, or any other government organization. It would not make sense for the government to buy ANYTHING and not keep it under tight lock and key, regardless of what it is. Furthermore, there is no way to accurately say there is 500,000 of them without actually counting them, or having access to company documents. The video I saw does without a doubt show a LARGE amount of them, but its presumptious to say its 500,000 just because it appears that it ‘could be’ that many. And even if it was that number, that would still correspond to the number possibly needed considering the amount people who die each year in the US….more than 500,000.

However on the other hand, it makes no sense to me that all of these things (regardless of how many) have just been sitting there supposedly for years and years as stock….? Sure, people are always dying, but to pre-make thousands of them the exact same color and type (on the website they are several different types and colors) and just let them sit for years and years outside in the sun and rain…even hail and exposing them to possible vandalism and theft? That does not seem like good buisness sense to me. If I was a client (for example family member of a deceased person) I would not want an ‘old and weathered coffin’ regardless of the fact that its going in the ground…I would want a brand spanking new one for my family member!…the ONLY way I would accept an old and weathered one is if I didn’t really care about who or what is going in it. Furthermore, from what I understand more funeral homes use the cement kind, not the plastic ones….I imagine because they don’t float. But then again there are alot of funeral homes…so that point may or may not be significant. Also these things (atleast the ones in GA) have been there for years (supposedly 10) and have not been moved or shifted or replaced, which indicates or atleast implies that they are not ‘stock’, or that they are not being sold, since most ‘stock’ items are ordered, sold and then replaced by newer ones thus replenishing the ‘stock’….no? Again, its just like a Car Dealership. And normally where these things are being found, there is always a bunch of secrecy or slow answers pertaining to them….which of course only arouses suspicion be it well founded or not.

Now it could just be simple government greediness, you know a case where ‘Governor Greedy’ gives a government contract to his little brother who just so happens to buids plastic vaults, who sells them to ‘the government’ even though in reality they go nowhere and end up on a vacant plot of land in rural GA, while he and his brother count the profits. But I would not be suprised if it were something more sinister.

Is there a reasonable alternative to bankruptcy?

I was laid off in February of 2009 and have not been able to find a good job since. I have been without medical insurance for almost 3 years and have to pay out of pocket for a required medication costing roughly $200 per month. I have moved back into my mother’s house (I’m 26) and I am overdrawn on my bank accounts every week just from paying off my car, my storage (I moved home from another state since I could no longer afford rent,) my medicine, groceries, and then attempting to make payments on my debt. I have spoken with a credit counseling organization (MMI) and they have offered me a plan by which I would pay them about $600 per month. This plan would entail $600 per month for debt payment, $485 for car payment, $125 for my student loan, $200 for medicine and $285 for storage of all of my possessions. This is $1695 per month. It does not include food. It does not include emergency preparation. And it is also $400 over my monthly income.

Issue #1: I need a new job. On average, I apply for 20-30 jobs PER DAY. I have been told that, since the economy went bust, EVERYONE checks the credit of a potential employee. Obviously my current poor credit is enough to render me unhireable. If I declare bankruptcy, how much worse can (will?) my job hunting situation be? I currently temp at a front desk for just 30 hrs a week, no benefits.

Issue #2: I need to be able to move out of my mother’s house. She is very kind to have opened her home to me when I am in such need, and I try very hard to stay out of her way, but she makes it very clear that it’s a huge burden on her to have me around (I know she is right, but it makes it no easier). She is also 100% against me declaring bankruptcy, not only for the impact it will have on my life but for the stigma it will bear on hers. I need to be able to have my own place again. But, my current credit is so poor AND declaring bankruptcy would remain for 10 years on my credit report, that no one would possibly rent to me. Which is less devastating to a potential landlord? Terrible credit and a ridiculous debt-to-income ratio, or a recent bankruptcy claim?

Issue #3: My car is currently worth about $9k less than what I still owe. I have tried to sell it back to the dealership, they charged me $5k and even when I left the car with them, they immediately called me back to pick it up because apparently something in the undercarriage was repaired wrong (oh and getting my $5k back was a real hoot, let me tell you.) It has already been repo-ed once and I had to pay money I didn’t have to get it back. I have tried selling in private forums, I have tried refinancing, I don’t know what else I can do. No one will buy a car worth almost ten grand less than they’re paying. I want very much to keep it, but I can’t afford it. And yes, simply letting it go would COST ME MONEY. Dave Ramsay says, “sell the car.” What would Dave Ramsay suggest in this situation?

Issue #4: I have no savings. If I declare bankruptcy, I will be living off of my income alone (my savings deteriorated during my time when I was unemployed, after which my debt increased exponentially. HOWEVER. If I declare bankruptcy and can divide my piffle paycheck so that at least SOME of it can go towards savings, then at the end of ten years when the bankruptcy falls off my credit report I will have something, instead of nothing. Or just…more of the nothing I have right now.

Issue #5: I can’t pay these bills. (see the price outline in the first paragraph.) Won’t these companies just sue me anyway, if I don’t declare?

Look. I love and respect my mother (who is not a financier.) I do not want to make her sad because her daughter went bankrupt before the age of 30. But let’s be realistic here. How much worse could my situation POSSIBLY GET if I declare, file for Chapter 7 and get my debts forgiven so that I may begin to rebuild.

I would very much appreciate ANY input, on a REALISTIC, REASONABLE alternative to me filing for bankruptcy. I have listened to “Financial University” by Dave Ramsey about 1000x and I’ve read Suze Orman’s books and seen her show.

It would bring me so much comfort, and I would so appreciate it, if my peers on yahoo who have experience or knowledge with this kind of thing could reach out and give me their honest, informed opinions.

Aside from marriage, when would you need an ORIGINAL birth certificate? Is a COPY good for anything?

Here’s the background to my question: First off, my husband and I are already married, and I can’t remember if we needed or used our original birth certificates, or even any birth certificate at all back when we were filing for marriage in the state of California.

However, For the purpose of disaster emergency preparation, I’m trying to compile/locate papers to stick into our safety deposit box at the bank. Original Birth certificates is one of them.

I have a copy of mine, and my parents have the original. As of now, the plan was to put my COPY in my safety deposit box, and let my parents keep the original, I suppose…

…but I’m wondering what good is the ORIGINAL for, and what good might a COPY be for? Is the copy for any good use?

I left the original with my parents because they said it’s hard to get anymore copies since it’s from Asia and then translated, so he gave me the option of taking the copy or the original. I thought, its been safe with them (they’re organized) for this many years, maybe I should just continue to leave it there and just take the copy. It’d be some work trying to find the original myself if I ever needed to though…

What do you think…do I need to go back and grab my original birth certificate afterall? Is having the copy of it ever going to come in handy, or is having just a copy pointless?

I can’t imagine when I would ever need the COPY OR the ORIGINAL. Please enlighten me.

Also, is it worth it to majorly search all houses for my husband’s, and if we can’t find it, to order a copy? Or should we wait until the need arises (which I don’t know when that would be) to order the copy if ever needed?

Thanks in advance : )

Is the WHO planning on taking over Canada and forcing vaccines?

This is a lengthy article — read it for yourself — but here are the highlights

http://preventdisease.com/news/09/092309_mandatory_vaccinations_Canada.shtml

After recent reports that Canada’s public health officials are engaged in cover-up operations to conceal flu origin, there is now evidence and growing concerns and that all the warnings, dire predictions and preparations for the H1N1 swine flu are leading to mandatory vaccinations under the guise of “voluntary cooperation” initiatives from Canadian health agencies.

Under the WHO charter determined in 2005, it has the authority to dissolve Canada’s government policies on emergency planning, mandatory vaccinations and to take control should there be a “pandemic”. This applies to any country signed onto the WHO.

When it comes to the legal framework under the WHO, PHAC has absolutely no details or restrictions in terms of who will administer the inoculations and how. This means that once WHO pandemic policies are enacted, it could allow non-healthcare personnel, such as police and military to vaccinate people against their will to enforce mandatory vaccinations

“Canada is deceiving the public and promoting a whole new dimension of voluntary cooperation for vaccines,” said Margaret Sauvé, a nurse and medical administrator from Montreal, Quebec. “If this is their idea of voluntary cooperation, I would really hate to see what a mandatory policy would look like, because we have no choice if we want to keep our jobs” she added.

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Now please read this as well

http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=647%3Alen-horowitz-files-pandemic-charges-against-rockefeller&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=64〈=en

Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz and Sherri Kane, an investigative journalist, have released evidence in legal affidavits that leaders of a private global biotechnology “trust” are behind the pandemic flu, including its origin and alleged prevention via vaccinations. Their documents, being sent by attorneys to the FBI this week, evidence industrialists are operating a crime ring within the “Partnership for New York City” (PNYC), and are behind the pandemic’s creation, media persuasions, vaccination preparations, and health official promotions.

Among the revelations from the Horowitz-Kane research are those linking Larry Silverstein of Silverstein Properties, Inc., and the 9-11 terrorist attacks, to the drug cartel’s geopolitical, economic, and population reduction activities. Mr. Silverstein, leaser of the World Trade Center who authorized to have Building-7 “pulled” [detonated] is a chief suspect in the “9-11 truth” investigation. Silverstein is currently landlord and co-partner in the biotechnology trust founded by David Rockefeller and implicated by these new discoveries.

Given the unprecedented nature and urgency of these findings, Dr. Horowitz has posted his affidavit for public review on FLUscam.com, hoping wide spread dissemination will prompt governments worldwide to cease mass vaccination preparations to avoid becoming accessories

Would I be excluded to do this because of my sex?

I plan on joining the National Guard soon and I really want to serve through 68W (health care specialist). On their website it says
“Injured or wounded Soldiers need immediate attention, and the Health Care Specialist is usually the first to provide basic and emergency medical care in preparation for a doctor’s treatment or evacuation. The Health Care Specialist is primarily responsible for providing emergency medical treatment, limited primary care and health protection, and evacuation from a point of injury or illness.”
Would I have to work in a hospital/clinic setting because I am a female? Or is there a way that I can opt for working in an aid station? I have heard that hospital and clinic settings are terrible because you barely get to do anything in a clinic and in a hospital all you do is clean bed pans. I want to do something that will actually help our wounded soldiers, so can someone help me haha?

Have you started your emergency food bank for the depression of 2011?

Have you bought non hybrid survival seeds (they will be the currency of the future!)

What food and items should a person store for long term survival?

Stocking up on food and items because I believe something big is going to happen.
Want to know what I am storing up for? Click these two links below.

What foods and items should a person store for long term survival of Martial Law or something along those lines. Their is going to be a Bank Holiday so we are preparing.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/bank-holiday-rumors-swirl-amidst-currency-crisis.html

http://militantlibertarian.org/2010/11/05/november-2010-bank-holiday/

Would you ask for food or panhandle if you had no choice?

You had a good job, always paid your bills took care
of business had a nice house, nice car. Self sufficient
you didn’t need help from anyone. One day all of that’s
gone, accept maybe the car and a few belongings.

Would you let deep rooted pride get in the way of
your survival, or go into that bakery and ask for
something to eat or panhandle in front of
a store? Yes, I know there are food banks
but what if there weren’t any?
When it comes to stealing food, there’s
a conflict indeed. I witnessed an incident
like that, the owner of the store said, just
let him go. Now there was a boss with
a good heart.

how do i get financial help for my family, 2 disabled adults and 2spec.needs kids who lives on only soc.sec.?

I am 60 y/o gal,was RN for 35y,now disabled with collapsed spine,heart failure.husband of 33 yrs disabled with copd and heart disease with 5 way open heart bypass, was employ 20yr at same place. Raised 4kids, then adopt 2 spec.need kids before disability.Now live on only mates Soc.Sec. income. $14.00yr too much for Section8housing, $100.yr to much for Tanf/food program. All on Medicare&Me.Care.Need help for kids clothes,food,transp.glasses,other survival.we are not trash, workrd all life lived in own rural home 25yr now lost,bankruptcy cleared 3 yr debt owed from Soc.Sec. battle and wait for income.Now live in urban apt. with culture shcok and poverty! have tried multiple avenues for help even work at food bank for food.we barter some services because we are educated and have many other valuable skills to teach and share. we now beg for charity of any kind to help us raise a 6 yr old girl and 9 yr old boy adopted with multiple probs from birth and abandoment issues.Can you help?

If a massive EMP hit he Earth and fried all the electronics.?

What would happen to all the bank balances and global debt. If we where thrown bank 100 years, until we were able to rebuild. Is it possible we could all start getting along in the interest of mutual survival or would it make us all more cynical and scared of each other.

Would any of you resort to cannibalism when food supplies started drying up? Who would be your first meal?